Thomas Betson to Dame Elizabeth Stonor
- Medieval Family Life
- Title
- Thomas Betson to Dame Elizabeth Stonor
- Reference
- SC 1/46/238
- Date
- 31 July 1478
- Library / Archive
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- The National Archives, UK
- Transcript location(s) in printed volume(s)
- Carpenter, 'Kingsford's Stonor Letters', item 224; Kingsford, Vol II, item 224
- Transcript from Christine Carpenter, 'Kingsford's Stonor Letters and Papers, 1290-1483'
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224. THOMAS BETSON TO DAME ELIZABETH
STONOR31 JULY, 1478
"My lady Stokker" is Elizabeth Stonor's sister Margaret, wife of Sir
William Stocker. "My cousin Anne" is Lady Stonor's daughter Anne Ryche,
whose illness is referred to in No. 222. From A.C., xlvi, 238.The enclosure has been separated from the letter and is now Ch. Misc.,
37. iy, 28. It would seem that Betson arrived at the total of ?12 6s. 8d.which
he gives in the Letter by charging ?2 6s. 8d.for the pipe of red wine and
omitting his own costs of 1s. 4d.Jhesus. Ao xviij
Right honorable and my right synguler good lady, I recommaund
me unto your good ladischipe. And, Madam, yff it lyke you, seth I
come home to London I mette with my lady, your modyr, and God
wote she made me right sulleyn chere with hir countenaunce whyles I
was with hir: me thought it longe till I was departid. She brayke
unto me of old ffernyeres, and spescially she brayke to me off the tayll
I told hir betwene the vicar þat was and hir: she said the vicar never
ffared well seth, he tooke it so mych to hart. I told hire a lyght
answere ageyn, and so I departid ffrom hir. I had no joye to tary with
hir. She is a ffyn mery woman, but ye shall nat know it nor yit ffynd
it, nor none of youres by that I se in her. Modyr mydwiffe told me
þat nowdyr my lady your modyr, my lady Stoker, nor hir husbaund
come ones to se my cossen Anne sethe she come to hir, nor yet axse
ones how she ffared, and yff my lady, your modyr, mete my cossen Anne
she will say no more but "Godes blissynge have ye and myne," and so
goo hir waye fforthe as thow she had no joye off hir. Whanne ye come
to London I shall tell you more. My cossen Anne hath bene with me
here at home, and she is hole and right well amendid and as a
woman shulde be, þer is no fawte, our blissid lord be thannkyd and his
blissid modyr. Good Madam, by the next at comes lett hir have all
hir clothes, she hath nede unto them, and that knowith owre lord, who
ever preserve you, Madam, and all yours in longe helth and vertu to
his plesour. At London the last day off Juyll, Ano supra.Be your servaunt Thomas Betson.
Jentil Madam, I beseche you that I may be recomaundid unto my
cossen, your dou[SYM]hter Kateryn, and our lord be with you both. Also,
Madam, yff it lyke you, I have bene with my brodyr, John Betson, ffor
money, and be my trouth I can none have off hym, he hath shewid me
that my Mayster your husbaund and ye owe hym ffor dyverse wynes,
Summa xij. li. vj. s. viij. d., as by the parcells herin closed more clerelyar
it appereth, the which parcelles my brodyr saith that þei be trew.
Wherffore, good Madam, I beseche you to speke unto my mayster, to
the intent I myght have the money here as shortely as can be. I muste
pay to John Tate vj li. for þe felles that I have shippid now, and to
Whyte of Bradway I muste pay iiij li., and I muste pay to the porters and
oþer for costes xl s. And so God save my soull I have it nat. I will
nat be so bare agayn of money a good whyle, with Godes grace. It was
the best dett I saw in his booke, so God help me, and perffore I tooke
it over unto me ffor payment, and I hold me plesed with all. Jhesu
preserve you ever, Amen.To my right honorable and Synguler good lady, Dame Elysabeth
Stonor soyt. dd.This is the Copie of my brodyrs bill.
Fyrst delyvered unto my master Stonor: j. h.1 whyte wyne and j. h
Rede wyne the xj day off Discembre An? xvj? by Thomas Meryke my
servaunt, and the same wyne was delyvered unto Goddard Oxbryge,
your servaunt, price:—iij. li. vj. s. viij. d.Itm., sold by my wyffe unto my lady Stonor j. pipa of Rede wyne:
ffor the whiche my lady muste make the price as it plesithe hir ffor I
yave my wiffe no nober price but after viij marcs the tonn. Summa—Itm., I delyvered unto my mayster hym selffe, the whiche went to
Stonor, j. h. Rede wyne, by the same token my mayster merkyd anoþer
hogeshede wyne in to Frydaye strete price off bothe:—iij. li. vj. s. viij. d.Itm., for a but off Romney to Stonor now off late, price: iij. li. vj. s.
viij. d.Itm., paid for the costes of the ij. h. wyne þat my brodyr Thomas
Betson sent to Stonor,Summa xvj. d.Summa——.
1 Presumably for "hogshead".
- Transcript from Charles Lethbridge Kingsford, 'The Stonor Letters and Papers 1290-1483, Volume II'
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224. THOMAS BETSON TO DAME ELIZABETH
STONOR31 JULY, 1478
“My lady Stokker” is Elizabeth Stonor’s sister Margaret, wife of Sir
William Stocker. “My cousin Anne” is Lady Stonor’s daughter Anne Ryche,
whose illness is referred to in No. 222. From A.C., xlvi, 238.The enclosure has been separated from the letter and is now Ch. Misc.,
37, iv, 28. It would seem that Betson arrived at the total of £12 6s. 8d. which
he gives in the Letter by charging £2 6s. 8d. for the pipe of red wine and
omitting his own costs of 1s. 4d.Jhesus. Ao xviij
Right honorable and my right synguler good lady, I recommaund
me unto your good ladischipe. And, Madam, yff it lyke you, seth I
come home to London I mette with my lady, your modyr, and God
wote she made me right sulleyn chere with hir countenaunce whyles I
was with hir: me thought it longe till I was departid. She brayke
unto me of old ffernyeres, and spescially she brayke to me off the tayll
I told hir betwene the vicar þat was and hir: she said the vicar never
ffared well seth, he tooke it so mych to hart. I told hire a lyght
answere ageyn, and so I departid ffrom hir. I had no joye to tary with
hir. She is a ffyn mery woman, but ye shall nat know it nor yit ffynd
it, nor none of youres by that I se in her. Modyr mydwiffe told me
þat nowdyr my lady your modyr, my lady Stoker, nor hir husbaund
come ones to se my cossen Anne sethe she come to hir, nor yet axse
ones how she ffared, and yff my lady, your modyr, mete my cossen Anne
she will say no more but “Godes blissynge have ye and myne,” and so
goo hir waye fforthe as thow she had no joye off hir. Whanne ye come
to London I shall tell you more. My cossen Anne hath bene with me
here at home, and she is hole and right well amendid and as a
woman shulde be, þer is no fawte, our blissid lord be thannkyd and his
blissid modyr. Good Madam, by the next at comes lett hir have all
hir clothes, she hath nede unto them, and that knowith owre lord, who
ever preserve you, Madam, and all yours in longe helth and vertu to
his plesour. At London the last day off Juyll, Ano supra.Be your servaunt Thomas Betson.
Jentil Madam, I beseche you that I may be recomaundid unto my
cossen, your douЗhter Kateryn, and our lord be with you both. Also,
Madam, yff it lyke you, I have bene with my brodyr, John Betson, ffor
money, and be my trouth I can none have off hym, he hath shewid me
that my Mayster your husbaund and ye owe hym ffor dyverse wynes,
Summa xij. li. vj. s. viij. d., as by the parcells herin closed more clerelyar
it appereth, the which parcelles my brodyr saith that þei be trew.
Wherffore, good Madam, I beseche you to speke unto my mayster, to
the intent I myght have the money here as shortely as can be. I muste
pay to John Tate vj li. for þe felles that I have shippid now, and to
Whyte of Bradway I muste pay iiij li., and I muste pay to the porters and
oþer for costes xl s. And so God save my soull I have it nat. I will
nat be so bare agayn of money a good whyle, with Godes grace. It was
the best dett I saw in his booke, so God help me, and þerffore I tooke
it over unto me ffor payment, and I hold me plesed with all. Jhesu
preserve you ever, Amen.To my right honorable and Synguler good lady, Dame Elysabeth
Stonor soyt. dd.This is the Copie of my brodyrs bill.
Fyrst delyvered unto my master Stonor: j. h.1 whyte wyne and j. h
Rede wyne the xj day off Discembre Ano xvjo by Thomas Meryke my
servaunt, and the same wyne was delyvered unto Goddard Oxbryge,
your servaunt, price:—iij. li. vj. s. viij. d.Itm., sold by my wyffe unto my lady Stonor j. pipa of Rede wyne:
ffor the whiche my lady muste make the price as it plesithe hir ffor I
yave my wiffe no noþer price but after viij marcs the tonn. Summa—Itm., I delyvered unto my mayster hym selffe, the whiche went to
Stonor, j. h. Rede wyne, by the same token my mayster merkyd anoþer
hogeshede wyne in to Frydaye strete price off bothe:—iij. li. vj. s. viij. d.Itm., for a but off Romney to Stonor now off late, price: iij. li. vj. s.
viij. d.Itm., paid for the costes of the ij. h. wyne þat my brodyr Thomas
Betson sent to Stonor, Summa xvj. d.Summa ——.
1 Presumably for “hogshead”.