Sir John Paston to John Paston
- Medieval Family Life
- Title
- Sir John Paston to John Paston
- Reference
- Add. 43490, f. 13
- Date
- 20 November 1474
- Library / Archive
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- The British Library
- Transcript location(s) in printed volume(s)
- Gairdner, Vol V, item 858; Fenn, Vol II, Edward IV item 61
- Transcript from John Fenn, 'Original Letters, written during the reigns of Henry VI., Edward IV., and Richard III…. Volume II' (1st transcript)
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LETTER LXI.
To John Paston Esquyer at Norwyche, or To Roose dwellyng
affor Mestresse Pastonys Gate in Norwych.RYGHT wyrshypful and weell belovyd brother I re-
comaunde me to yow letyng yow weet yt I have comonyd
wt yowr ffreende Dawnson and have receyvyd yowr Rynge off
hym and he hathe by myn advyce spoken wt 1 hyr ij tymes he
tellythe me off hyr delyng and answers whyche iff they wer
acordyng to hys seyng a ffeynter Lover than ye wolde and weell
aghte to take therin greet comffort so yt he myght haply slepe
ye werse iij nyghtys afftr. And suche delyng in parte as was
bytwyen my Lady W. and yowr ffreende Danson he wrote me
a bylle theroff whyche I sende yow herwt and that yt longy he
to me to doo therin it shall nott ffayle to leeve all other bysynesse
a parte. Neu’thelesse w in iiij dayes I hope so to deele herin,
yt I suppose to sette yow in serteynte hoghe yt ye shall fynde
hyr ffor evyr her afftr. It is so as I undrestande yt ye be as
besy on yowr syde ffor yowr ffreende Dawnson wheer as ye be
I praye God sende yow bothe goode spede in thees werkys
whyche iff they be browte abowte iche off yowe is moche
beholden to other, yit were it pyte yt suche crafty wowers as
ye be bothe scholde speede weell, but iff ye love trewly.It’m as ffor Stoctōns Doghtr she shall be weddyd in haste
to Skeerne as she tolde hyrselffe to my 2 Sylkemayde whyche
makyth perte off suche as she shall weer, to whom she brake
hyr harte and tolde hyr yt she sholde have hadde Mastr Paston
and my Mayde wende it had been I yt she speke off and wt moor
yt the same Mestr Paston kome wher she was wt xx men and
wolde have 3 taken hyr aweye. I tolde my mayde yt she lyed
off me and yt I neu’ spake wt hyr in my lyff ner yt I wolde not
wedde hyr to have wt hyr iijml marke.It’m as for Ebortons dowghtr my brother Edmonde seythe yt
he herde neu’ moor speche yroff syns yowr dep’tyng and yr ye
wolde yt he sholde nott breke nor doo no thynge therin but iff
it come off theer begynnyng.It’m I had answer ffrom my 4 Lorde yt he is my speciall
goode Lorde and yt by wryghtyng and as ffor Bernaye he sette
hym in hys owne wags ffor my sake and yt whan so eu’ I come
to Caleys I shall ffynde all thyng ther as woll have it and rather
bett’ than it was heretoffor.It’m, ye Kyng come to yis towne on wednysdaye as ffor the
Frenshe 5 Embassate yt is heer they come nott in ye Kynges
presence by lykehod ffor men seye yt ye chyeff off them is
he yt poysonyd bothe ye Duke off Berry and the Duke off
Calabr.It’m ther was neu’ mor lyklyhod yt ye Kyng shall goo ovyr
thys next yer than was nowe.I praye yow remembre yt I maye have ye Pewter vessell heddr
by ye next karyer by the lattr ende off thys weke.It’m I praye yow remembr so yt I may have the bokys by
the same tyme whyche my Moodr seyde she wolde sende me
by the next carier.Wretyn at London ye sondaye ye xx daye off Novembr
Ao. E. iiijti. xiiijo.6 John Paston, K.
11 ¾ by 8 ½.
London,
Sunday, 20th of November,
1474, 14 E. IV.I have given the former part of this Letter as a specimen of the free and easy epistolary
style of an age which we are too apt to consider as almost entirely illiterate; on a similar
subject a modern Gentleman could scarcely have expressed himself in easier terms, or
with more propriety, though in one instance perhaps with more politeness.1 I do not know to whom this refers; it relates to some Lady to whom he then paid
his addresses (the Lady W. after mentioned I suppose,) and who by the next Letter ap-
pears to be Lady Walgrave, widow of Sir Richard Walgrave, Knight.2 A person who made Gowns of Silk, &c. for both men and women, as appears from
the manner in which she is here mentioned.3 This was a method sometimes practised, being consonant to the martial gallantry
of the times.4 I am not certain whether the Duke of Norfolk is here meant, or Lord Hastyngs
the then Governor of Calais.5 For the better understanding of this curious Anecdote, which reflects honour on King
Edward, both as a Sovereign Prince, and a man, it will be necessary to inform the
Reader, that in 1472, Lewis XI. King of France, finding himself drawn into a war with
the Duke of Burgundy, in order to bring about a marriage between his brother Charles,
Duke of Berry and Guienne, and Mary, the Daughter and Heir of that Duke, em-
ployed proper Persons to destroy his Brother, and by that means to extricate him from
these troubles.The death of the Duke of Berry was effected by a slow poison, of which he died in
May, 1472, aged about 26 years.Mary, the richest Heiress of her time, was born in 1457, and by her father, the
Duke of Burgundy, was promised in marriage to various Potentates, and amongst the rest
to Nicholas of Anjou, Duke of Calabria and Lorrain. This Prince died in August,
1473, aged about 25, here said by poison, administered by the same hand that took off
the Duke of Berry.6 Autograph. Pl. IV. No 9.
- Transcript from John Fenn, 'Original Letters, written during the reigns of Henry VI., Edward IV., and Richard III…. Volume II' (2nd transcript)
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LETTER LXI.
To John Paston, Esquire, at Norwich, or To Rose, dwelling
afore Mrs. Paston’s Gate, in Norwich.RIGHT worshipful and well beloved Brother, I recommend
me to you, letting you weet, that I have communed
with your friend Dawnson, and have received your Ring of him,
and he hath by mine advice spoken with 1 her two times; he
telleth me of her dealing and answers, which if they were ac-
cording to his saying, a fainter Lover than ye would, and well
ought to, take therein great comfort, so that he might haply
sleep the worse three nights after.And such dealing in part as was between my Lady W.
and your friend Danson he wrote me a bill thereof, which
I send you herewith; and that that longeth to me to do therein,
it shall not fail to leave all other business apart; nevertheless
within three days, I hope so to deal herein, that I suppose to
set you in certainty how that ye shall find her for ever here-
after.It is so, as I understand, that ye be as busy on your side
for your friend Dawnson, whereas (if) ye be, I pray God send
you both good speed in these works, which if they be brought
about, each of you is much beholden to other; yet were it
pity that such crafty Woers, as ye be both, should speed well,
but if (unless) ye love truly.Item, as for Stocton’s Daughter, she shall be wedded in haste
to Skeerne, as she told herself to my 2 Silkmaid, which maketh
part of such as she shall wear, to whom she broke (opened)
her heart, and told her, that she should have had Master Paston,
and my Maid wend (thought) it had been I that she spoke of;
and with more, that the same Master Paston came where she was
with 20 men, and would have 3 taken her away; I told my
Maid that she lied of me, and that I never spoke with her in my
life, nor that I would not wed her to have with her 3000
Marks (2000l.)Item, as for Eberton’s Daughter, my brother Edmond faith,
that he heard never more speech thereof since your departing,
and that ye would that he should not break, nor do nothing
therein but if (unless) it came of their beginning.Item, I had answer from my 4 Lord that he is my spe-
cial good Lord, and that by writing; and as for Bernay he
set him in his own Wages for my sake, and that whenso-
ever I come to Calais, I shall find all thing there as I would
have it, and rather better than it was heretofore.Item, the King came to this Town on Wednesday, and as
for the French 5 Ambassade (Embassy) that is here, they come
not in the King’s Presence, by likelihood, for men say, that
the Chief of them is he that poisoned both the Duke of Berry
and the Duke of Calabria.Item, there was never more likelihood that the King should
go over sea this next year then was now.I pray you remember that I may have the Pewter vessel by
the next Carrier by the latter end of this week.Item, I pray you remember so that I may have the Books
by the same time, which my Mother said she would send me by
the next Carrier.Written at London, the Sunday the 20th of November, in
the 14th year of Edward IV.6 JOHN PASTON, Knight.
11 ? by 8 ?.
London,
Sunday, 20th of November,
1474, 14 E. IV.I have given the former part of this Letter as a specimen of the free and easy epistolary
style of an age which we are too apt to consider as almost entirely illiterate; on a similar
subject a modern Gentleman could scarcely have expressed himself in easier terms, or
with more propriety, though in one instance perhaps with more politeness.1 I do not know to whom this refers; it relates to some Lady to whom he then paid
his addresses (the Lady W. after mentioned I suppose,) and who by the next Letter ap-
pears to be Lady Walgrave, widow of Sir Richard Walgrave, Knight.2 A person who made Gowns of Silk, &c. for both men and women, as appears from
the manner in which she is here mentioned.3 This was a method sometimes practised, being consonant to the martial gallantry
of the times.4 I am not certain whether the Duke of Norfolk is here meant, or Lord Hastyngs
the then Governor of Calais.5 For the better understanding of this curious Anecdote, which reflects honour on King
Edward, both as a Sovereign Prince, and a man, it will be necessary to inform the
Reader, that in 1472, Lewis XI. King of France, finding himself drawn into a war with
the Duke of Burgundy, in order to bring about a marriage between his brother Charles,
Duke of Berry and Guienne, and Mary, the Daughter and Heir of that Duke, em-
ployed proper Persons to destroy his Brother, and by that means to extricate him from
these troubles.The death of the Duke of Berry was effected by a slow poison, of which he died in
May, 1472, aged about 26 years.Mary, the richest Heiress of her time, was born in 1457, and by her father, the
Duke of Burgundy, was promised in marriage to various Potentates, and amongst the rest
to Nicholas of Anjou, Duke of Calabria and Lorrain. This Prince died in August,
1473, aged about 25, here said by poison, administered by the same hand that took off
the Duke of Berry.6 Autograph. Pl. IV. No 9.
- Transcript from James Gairdner, 'The Paston Letters, A.D., 1422-1509, New Complete Library Edition, Volume V'
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SIR JOHN PASTON TO JOHN PASTON1
To John Taston, Esquyer, at Norwyche, or to Roose, awellyng
affor Mestresse Pastonys gate, in Norwych.RYGHT wyrshypful and weell belovyd brother, I re-
comaunde me to yow, letyng yow weet that I have
comonyd with yowr ffreende Dawnson, and have re-
ceyvyd yowr rynge off hym, and he hathe by myn advyce
spoken with hyr2 ij. tymes; he tellythe me off hyr delyng
and answers, whyche iff they wer acordyng to hys seyng, a
ffeynter lover than ye wolde, and weell aghte to, take therin
greet comffort, so that he myght haply slepe the werse iij.
nyghtys afftr. And suche delyng in parte as was bytwyen my
Lady W. and yowr ffreende Danson he wrote me a bylle ther-
off, whyche I sende yow herwith; and that that longythe to
me to doo therin, it [I?] shall nott ffayle to leeve all other
bysynesse a parte. Neverthelesse within iij. dayes, I hope so
to deele herin, that I suppose to sette yow in serteynte hoghe
that ye shall fynde hyr ffor evyr her afftr. It is so, as I
undrestande, that ye be as besy on yowr syde ffor yowr
ffreende Dawnson, wheer as ye be, I praye God sende yow
bothe goode spede in thees werkys, whyche iff they be browte
abowte iche off yowe is moche beholden to other; yit were it
pyte that suche crafty wowers, as ye be bothe, scholde speede
weell, but iff ye love trewly.Item, as ffor Stoctons doghtr, she shall be weddyd in haste
to Skeerne, as she tolde hyrselffe to my sylke-mayde,1 whyche
makyth perte off suche as she shall weer, to whom she brake
hyr harte, and tolde hyr that she sholde have hadde Master
Paston, and my mayde wende it had been I that she speke
off; and with moor that the same Mester Paston kome wher
she was with xx. men, and wolde have taken hyr aweye. I
tolde my mayde that she lyed off me, and that I never spake
with hyr in my lyff, ner that I wolde not wedde hyr to have
with hyr iijml. marke.Item, as for Ebortons dowghtr, my brother Edmonde
seythe, that he herde never moor speche theroff syns yowr
departyng, and that ye wolde that he sholde nott breke, nor
doo no thynge therin, but iff it come off theer begynnyng.Item, I had answer ffrom my Lorde2 that he is my speciall
goode lorde, and that by wryghtyng; and as ffor Bernaye he
sette hym in hys owne wages ffor my sake, and that whan so
ever I come to Caleys, I shall ffynde all thyng ther as woll
have it, and rather better than it was heretoffor.Item, the Kyng come to this towne on Wednysdaye; as
ffor the Frenshe Embassate that is heer, they come nott in the
Kynges presence, by lykehod, ffor men seye that the chyeff off
them is he that poysonyd bothe the Duke off Berry1 and the
Duke off Calabr.2Item, ther was never mor lyklyhod that the Kyng shall
goo ovyr thys next yer than was nowe.I praye yow remembre that I maye have the pewter vessell
heddr by the next karyer by the lattr ende off thys weke.Item, I praye yow remembr so that I may have the bokys
by the same tyme, whyche my moodr seyde she wolde sende
me by the next carier.Wretyn at London, the Sondaye the xx. daye off Novembr,
anno E. iiijti xiiijo.JOHN PASTON, K.
1 [From Fenn, ii. 164.]
2 Apparently Lady Walgrave, hereafter referred to. She was the widow of Sir
Richard Walgrave, Knight.1 A person who made gowns of silk, etc., for both men and women, as appears
from the manner in which she is here mentioned.—F.2 I am not certain whether the Duke of Norfolk is here meant, or Lord Hastyngs,
the then Governor of Calais.—F.1 Charles, Duke of Berry and of Guienne, who was supposed to have been poisoned
by order of his brother Lewis XI. in May 1472.2 Nicholas of Anjou, Duke of Calabria and Lorraine, who died about the same
time as the Duke of Guienne.1474
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