John Paston to Sir John Paston
- Medieval Family Life
- Title
- John Paston to Sir John Paston
- Reference
- Add. 34889, ff. 192v-193r
- Date
- 1 March 1470
- Library / Archive
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- The British Library
- Transcript location(s) in printed volume(s)
- Gairdner, Vol V, item 741; Gairdner, 'Paston Letters', item 82
- Transcript from James Gairdner, 'The Paston Letters, A.D., 1422-1509, New Complete Library Edition, Volume V'
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741
JOHN PASTON TO SIR JOHN PASTON1
RYGHT worchepfull Syr, I recomand me to yow aftyr
the old maner, sertyfyng yow that I have comonyd
with my modyr for your coming hom, but I can not
fynd by hyr that she wyll depert with eny sylvyr for your
costis, for she and hyr cwrate2 alegge mor poverte then ever
wasse. Item, as for your clok at Harcortis it wyll be nye
Estern er it be redy, for ther is stolyn owt of hys chaumbyr
some of the ger that belongyd therto, and that must have
leyser to be mad ayen. Item, the caryer forgat your byll
behynd hym, but it was delyveryd all to gedyr, but it shall be
browght yow and the wyndas with the teles by the next caryer,
as myn orangys shall com to me I tryst. Dame Elyzabet
Calthorp is a fayir lady and longyth for orangis, thow she be
not with chyld. Item, I pray yow that ye wyll make aqwetance
on to the person of Mawtby3 and to John Seyne as executors
to John Dawbeney, for they wyll take non admynystracyon of
hys goodis tyll they be aqwetansyd of youre and my modyr.
Ye maye do it well j nough, so God help me; for I wot well
ye owt hym mony, and he nat yow, if so be that he wer trewe
when he dyid, and I wot well we fond hym nevyr on trew in
hys lyve; but hys frendys and othyr of the contre putt grett
defawt in me that ther is no thyng don for hym, seying that he
myght do no more for us but lose hys lyfe in your servyse and
myn; and now he is half forgotyn among us. Wherfor I pray
yow let thys be sped.Item, as for Doctor Pykenham, J. Pampyng can tell yow
he is not in Norwyche. When he comyth I shall spek with
hym and send yow hys answer. Item, as for myn oncyll
Wylliam, I have grant to have a byll of hym what every thyng
lythe for; but all thyng is not yet in rest ayen that was
remevyd for the chyrchyng of my Lady Anne. As sonne as
I have the byll I shall send it yow and hys answer, whyche he
wyll fyrst have plegyd owght, and also whethyr he purposyth
to do as he seyd by my graundamys lond.Item, Gefrey Spyrlyng hathe ofte spokyn to me to send to
yow for to undyrstand how ye will deell with hym for hys
place in Norwyche, for he seythe that he had lever have your
good mastyrship ther in then eny othyr manys good lordshep;
for and ye wyll be hys good mastyr he wyll swe no ferther, or
ellys he must.Item, a for (sic) for myn old reknyng, I shall make it up
in hast and send it yow for your bettyr remembrance, for as
me thynkyth by your wrytyng ye have nye forgetyn it; but I
am rype j now in it for myn owne dyscharge. Item, I pray
yow, take in to your a ward a short murry jornade1 of myn
whyche Jacobyn, Wykis woman, hathe lest that she be flyttyng
and that it be exchetyd. Item, I pray yow send me swyr
tydyngis of the world in hast.As for the bysheop of Wynchestyr, W. Wyrceteyr told my
modyr that he had takyn charge x. dayis or then Pampyng cam
hom; but he wenyth that the bysshop wyll be a yenst yow, in
so myche that [he2] avysyd my modyr to consell yow that ye
sholl labor to my Lord Cardynall3 that the seyd byshop shold
not be amytted to take admynystracyon. No mor, &c.
Wretyn at Norwyche the fyrst daye off Marche. J. P.I pray, get us a wyfe somwher, for Melius est nubere in
Domino quam urere. (cao primo.)4Noveritis universi per presentes me J. P. mylitem remisisse,
&c. Roberto Cotteler personæ ecclesiæ de Mawtby in comitatu
Norfolk et Johanni Seyne de Rollysby in eodem comitatu,
executores testamenti et ultimæ voluntatis Johannis Dawbeney
armygeri, nuper defuncti, omnimodas acciones, tam reales, &c.
quos versus eundem Robertum sive Johannem Seyne habui,
habeo, &c., racione alicujus debyti dicti Johannis Dawbeney,
jam defuncti, mychi dicto J. Paston debite (sic) a principio
mundi usque in diem, &c. In cujus, &c. Datum, &c.As for the yer of the Kyng, let it be set in, but as for the
daye and the monyth let it be owt, for the day must be aftyr
probate of the wyll and the admynystracyon takyng. I pray
you, let thys be sped in all hast possybyll; and as for your
obligacyon and syche ger as belongyth to yow, I shalbe swyr of
it er they have the aqwetance.Item, as for owyr afrayis her, J. Pampyng can tell yow;
but and they get me, ye loose a brodyr, quod juratum est.It is good to do by the comandment of your mastyr whyll
I am so well boryn owte; thys my lord of Norffolk galantis
send me woord dayly ad confortandum stomacum. Ye must spek
with your mastyr and comon some remedye hastyly, or be God
I enswyr yow, whyll owyr Dwk is thus cherysheid with the
kyng, ye nor I shall not have a man unbetyn or slayn in thys
contre, nor our sylfe nowthyr, as well ye as I, quod juratum est
onys ayen. The Dwke, the Dwches and ther consell ar wrothe
that ye make no meanys to them your sylfe.Item, I send yow Townysendis endentwre by John
Pampyng.1 [Add. MS. 34,889, f. 192.] This letter may be dated 1470, by comparing the
postscript with the beginning of No. 742, which seems to have been written in answer
to it. John Daubeney was killed at the siege of Caister in 1469. See Nos. 725, 733.2 James Gloys.
3 Robert Cutler or Cotteler. See next page.
1 Halliwell gives ‘jornet’ as ‘a kind of cloak’; ‘murrey’ was a dark red colour.
2 Omitted in MS. 3 Cardinal Bourchier.
4 The reference is as inaccurate as the quotation. The text referred to is 1 Cor.
vii. 9: ‘Melius est enim nubere quam uri.’1470
MARCH 11470
MARCH 11470
MARCH 1 - Transcript from James Gairdner, 'The Paston Letters, 1422-1509'
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LXXXII
A.D. 1470, 1 March
JOHN PASTON TO SIR JOHN PASTON
[Add. MS. 34,889, f. 192]
This letter, which is No. 1060 in the Inventory, may be dated 1470, by
comparing the postscript with the beginning of No. 637, which seems to
have been written in answer to it. John Daubeney was killed at the siege
of Caister in 1469. See Nos. 621, 629.RYGHT worchepfull Syr, I recomand me to
yow aftyr the old maner, sertyfyng yow
that I have comonyd with my modyr for
your coming hom, but I can not fynd by
hyr that she wyll depert with eny sylvyr for your
costis, for she and hyr cwrate1 alegge mor poverte
then ever wasse. Item, as for your clok at Har-
cortis it wyll be nye Estern er it be redy, for ther is
stolyn owt of hys chaumbyr some of the ger that
belongyd therto, and that must have leyser to be mad
ayen. Item, the caryer forgat your byll behynd hym,
but it was delyveryd all to gedyr, but it shall be
browght yow and the wyndas with the teles by the
next caryer, as myn orangys shall com to me I tryst.
Dame Elyzabet Calthorp is a fayir lady and longyth
for orangis, thow she be not with chyld. Item, I pray
yow that ye wyll make aqwetance on to the person of
Mawtby 1 and to John Seyne as executors to John
Dawbeney, for they wyll take non admynystracyon of
hys goodis tyll they be aqwetansyd of youre and my
modyr. Ye maye do it well j nough, so God help
me; for I wot well ye owt hym mony, and he nat
yow, if so be that he wer trewe when he dyid, and I
wot well we fond hym nevyr on trew in hys lyve; but
hys frendys and othyr of the contre putt grett defawt
in me that ther is no thyng don for hym, seying that
he myght do no more for us but lose hys lyfe in your
servyse and myn; and now he is half forgotyn among
us. Wherfor I pray yow let thys be sped.Item, as for Doctor Pykenham, J. Pampyng can
tell yow he is not in Norwyche. When he comyth I
shall spek with hym and send yow hys answer. Item,
as for myn oncyll Wylliam, I have grant to have a
byll of hym what every thyng lythe for; but all thyng
is not yet in rest ayen that was remevyd for the
chyrchyng of my lady Anne. As sonne as I have
the byll I shall send it yow and hys answer, whyche
he wyll fyrst have plegyd owght, and also whethyr he
purposyth to do as he seyd by my graundamys lond.Item, Gefrey Spyrlyng hathe ofte spokyn to me to
send to yow for to undyrstand how ye will deell with
hym for hys place in Norwyche, for he seythe that he
had lever have your good mastyrship ther in then eny
othyr manys good lordshep; for and ye wyll be hys
good mastyr he wyll swe no ferther, or ellys he must.Item, a for (sic) for myn old reknyng, I shall make
it up in hast and send it yow for your bettyr remem-
brance, for as me thynkyth by your wrytyng ye have
nye forgetyn it; but I am rype j now in it it for myn
owne dyscharge. Item, I pray yow, take in to your a
ward a short murry jornade2 of myn whyche Jacobyn,
Wykis woman, hathe lest that she be flyttyng and that
it be exchetyd. Item, 1 pray yow send me swyr
tydyngis of the world in hast.As forthe bysheop of Wynchestyr, W. Wyrceteyr told
my modyr that he had takyn charge x. dayis or then
Pampyng cam hom; but he wenyth that the bysshop
wyll be a yenst yow, in so myche that [he1] avysyd my
modyr to consell yow that ye sholl labor to my Lord
Cardynall2 that the seyd byshop shold not be amytted
to take admynystracyon. No mor, &c. Wretyn at
Norwyche the fyrst daye off Marche. J. P.I pray, get us a wyfe somwher, for Melius est
nubere in Domino quam urere. (ca° primo.)2Noveritis universi per presentes me J. P. mylitem
remisisse, &c. Roberto Cotteler personæ ecclesiæ
de Mawtby in comitatu Norfolk et Johanni Seyne
de Rollysby in eodem comitatu, executores testa-
menti et ultimæ voluntatis Johannis Dawbeney
armygeri, nuper defuncti, omnimodas acciones, tam
reales, &c. quos versus eundem Robertum sive
Johannem Seyne habui, habeo, &c., racione alicujus
debyti dicti Johannis Dawbeney, jam defuncti,
mychi dicto J. Paston debite (sic) a principio mundi
usque in diem, &c. In cujus, &c. Datum, &c.As for the yer of the Kyng, let it be set in, but as
for the daye and the monyth let it be owt, for the day
must be aftyr probate of the wyll and the admynys-
tracyon takyng. I pray you, let thys be sped in all
hast possybyll; and as for your obligacyon and syche
ger as belongyth to yow, I shalbe swyr of it er they
have the aqwetance.Item, as for owyr afrayis her, J. Pampyng can tell
yow; but and they get me, ye loose a brodyr, quod
juratum est.It is good to do by the comandment of your
mastyr whyll I am so well boryn owte; thys my lord
of Norffolk galantis send me woord dayly ad con-
fortandum stomacum. Ye must spek with your
mastyr and comon some remedye hastyly, or be
God I enswyr yow, whyll owyr Dwk is thus cher-
ysheid with the kyng, ye nor I shall not have a man
unbetyn or slayn in thys contre, nor our sylfe
nowthyr, as well ye as I, quod juratum est onys
ayen. The Dwke, the Dwches and ther consell ar
wrothe that ye make no meanys to them your sylfe.Item, I send yow Townysendis endentwre by
John Pampyng.1 James Gloys.
1 Robert Cutler or Cotteler. See next page.
2 Halliwell gives ‘jornet’ as ‘a kind of cloak’; ‘murrey’ was a dark
red colour.1 Omitted in MS. 2 Cardinal Bourchier.
3 The reference is as inaccurate as the quotation. The text referred to
is 1 Cor. vii. 9: ‘Melius est enim nubere quam uri.’