John Doddington to William Plumpton
- Medieval Family Life
- Title
- John Doddington to William Plumpton
- Reference
- WYL655/2 No. 25, p. 203
- Date
- 22 February [1538/9]
- Library / Archive
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- West Yorkshire Archives
- Transcript location(s) in printed volume(s)
- Stapleton, 'To other members of the Plumpton family', item 15; Kirby, item 231
- Transcript from Joan Kirby, 'The Plumpton Letters and Papers'
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231 John Doddington1 to William Plumpton, 22 February [1538/9] (No.
25, p. 203)Right worshipfull,a my deuty to you premised, in my most hertyest
maner I recomend me vnto you, and likewise to my good mistress,
your wife, trusting in Jesus that you with all your children be in good
health, the continuence wherof I pray Jesus increase. It may please you
to be advertised I haue receiued your gentle letters datted at Plompton
the ix of January, by the which you required me to helpe Tho:
Compton,2 your nephe, to some honiest ocopation at London, with
him to be bownd prentis, which I wad gladly to the vttermost of my
power and the helpe of my frinds haue don, as I am bownd, in case
he had come vnto me, as he did not. The bringer of your said letters
informed me that your said nephew was determend to kepe in his owne
countrie & not to cum to London.And where your pleasure in your said letter is that I shold giue you
notise if theare wear any thing in varience [p. 204] within your maner
or lordship of Sacomp, to the intent you might send your pleasure
therin by your baly at his next coming to Sacomp. Sir, thear is one
thing in varience for title of copehold land ther, which one Edward
Glidall, your late farmer, hath, which land was somtimes one Flegs,
vnto the which one Flege now maketh title, and hath don longtimes
past. And abowt Chrismas last past, the same Flegge deliuered a supenea
[. . .]b to Glidall for the same, as I am informed, but what is don therin
I know not. Of this matter Settil, your servant, can informe you better
than I.Allso ther is one Slepe, dweling abowt St Albones, who at your last
court thear maid clame to a percill of grownd of your said copehold
in the tenner of Marston, of the which the same Marston hath a cope.
Soeuer the less, said Slepe aledgeth that his brother, of whome the said
Marston bought the same ground, never maid sirrender <therof>,
according to the [. . .]c custome of your maner. Albeit, it apereth plainely
in a bill remaining with the said Merston, that the brother of the said
Slepe sold vnto Merston all his intreast in the <said> coppehold. The
same Slepe at your last court required your baly [. . .]d <ther, with the
asent> of the said Merston, [. . .]e <to make search in your court rowl
that if any such surrender war maid, acording as> it is mentioned in
the said copie remaining with the said Marston, which cope, as I
remember, was made in thef [p. 205] fowerth or fifth yeareg of the reign
of our souaraigne lord the king that now is, whear the said rowle would
not be found. Howbeit, theare was all the rowles of this king reigne,
but onely that of that yeare. Sir, as me thinks your rowls theare be not
kept as they ought to be, the cofer wherin your said court rowles lieth
is nought and the lock therof not worth a pene, and it standeth in the
church at Sacomp, wheare every man may com at his pleasure.
Wherfore, in my simple mind, it should be nesary for you to provide
som other meane for the safe custody of your said rowles.Also, Sir, sith the time I haue bene your farmer ther I haue paid,
and must pay within tow yeares next to come vj fiftens for the farme
of yur maner of Sacomp: the first payment xxiiijs, the second xxxs viijd,
and either of the other fowr years xxiiijs, which amounteth in the hole
vijli xs viijd. I marvill greatly that your said manor shold be so highley
charged, considering the hole fiftene of your towne of Sacomp is but
lixs. I could never se no writing of the sesment therof, but only by the
report maid of your tennants ther by word of mouth. Sir, I wright this
vnto you because in case you haue any sertinty therof in wryting, I
might know it. I wold be sory to charge your said maner with any
more then ought of right to be; and yet I haue paid the same bycause
I am loth to stand in contentions with my neighbors [?until]h the truth
therin be known. [p. 206]Furtheri I haue receiued the letter sent to you by Sir Philip Butler,3
knight, wherin he wrighteth that you haue bene insensed against him
by the report of lewd and evill disposed persons – by whome he
meaneth the same, I may not iudge, howbeit I think rather by me then
any other. His sones ar discontented with me because I kepe greyhounds
and hownds at your said maner, saieng that it becometh not me to
kepe grey hownds and hownds so near theyr fathers nose, with many
other things which I remite for lake of time.And whear your pleasure is in your said letter, that I shold shew Mr
Butler that in case he wold giue you such fine for your milne of Sacomp
as your baly did demaund for the same, you wear contented that he
shold be amited tennant therof. Sir, with the receit of your said letter
I haue not spoken with the said Mr Butler, because I haue bene, and
yet am at London, as this bearrer can informe you. Albeit, at this
Hillary tearme I spoke woth one Mr Hide,4 who maried the said Mr
Butlers daughters and lieth and continueth within the said Mr Butlers
and is the greatest doer about him, to whom I shewed your pleasure
therin, requiring him to informe Mr Butler therof, and of your said
pleasure. Whervpon the said Mr Hide said that you demaunded an
vnreasonable fine for the same, and that his father did ofer you double
the fine that ever was paid by any man for the same. And further, he
said that in case ye wold not take such fine as shold stand with reason
and good conscience, he trusted that my lord Chaunceler of England,5
vpon the matter hard before him, wod se such fine for the same as
shold stand with right and good [p. 207] consience.j And whear also
the said Mr Butler, amongst other things, wryteth in his said letter that
your tennants thear be daly in his danger, and that he might pot them
daily to trobles, if he wold.Sir, I trust you haue no tennant thear but that is the kings trew
subiect and obedient to Gods law and his Graces. And as long as the
be so I dought not but that we, having so noble and gratious a king as
we haue, power men shal liue in rest, doing their deuty to his Grace
as they and all other men ar most bownd to do. Sir, Mr Butler, of
himself, is a good and gentle knight, in case he wear not otherwise
counciled, as knoweth Jesu, who ever preserue you and all yours in
good and prosperus health, with long continuance of the same, to his
pleasure. From London, the xxij day of Febuary.Your fermar and servant John Dodingtonk
Endorsed (p. 203): To the right worshipfull and his singuler good master
Mr William Plompton esquire at Plompton Hall in the countie of York
giue theisa Marginal note: 25 letter by John Dodington.
b of deleted.
c said deleted.
d therwith the asent deleted.
e that the brother of the said Slepe sold vnto the said Marston deleted.
f Marginal note: Thomas Cholmley desiers Mister William Faerfax to sufer all he can
posible for the good of the comanwelth, and long lokt for will cum at last.g Marginal note: 25 letter by John Dodington.
h Illegible word.
i Marginal note: 25 letter by John Dodington.
j Marginal note: As above.
k Marginal note: Copied the 13 of June, Tewsday.
1 John Doddington (d.1544), farmer of the manor of Sacombe, Lincs, part of Isabel
Plumpton’s inheritance, 126.2 Stapleton suggests that Thomas Compton came of a Lincs family and was ‘nephew
in half-blood’ to Isabel Plumpton, 238n.3 Sir Philip Boteler, of Woodhall, Herts, four times sheriff of the county, Somerville,
405.4 Leonard Hide married Anne Boteler, Stapleton, 240n.
5 Probably Lord Audley (d.1544).
- Transcript from Thomas Stapleton, 'Plumpton Correspondence: A series of letters, chiefly domestick, written in the reigns of Edward IV, Richard III, Henry VII and Henry VIII'
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LETTER XV.
Too the right worshipfull and his singuler good master, Mr. William
Plompton, esquire, at Plompton Hall, in the countie of York,
give theis.
maner I recomend me unto you, and likewise to my good Mistres
your wife, trusting in Jesus that you with all your children be in
good health, the continuence wherof I pray Jesus increase. It
may please you to be advertised I have received your gentle let-
ters, datted at Plompton the ix of January, by the which you re-
quired me to helpe Tho: Compton, your nephe,a to some honiest
ocopation at London, with him to be bownd prentis ; which I wad
gladly to the uttermost of my power and the helpe of my frinds
have don, as I am bownd, in case he had come unto me, as he did
not. The bringer of your said letters informed me that your said
nephew was determend to kepe in his owne countrie, and not to
cum to London. And where your pleasure in your said letter is,
that I shold give you notise if theare wear any thing in varience
within your maner or lordship of Sacomp, to the intent you
might send your pleasure therin by your baly, at his next coming to
Sacomp. Sir, thear is one thing in varience for title of copehold
land ther, which one Edward Glidall, your late farmer, hath ;
which land was somtimes one Flegs, unto the which one Flege
now maketh title and hath don long times past. And abowt Chris-
mas last past, the same Flegge delivered a supenea to Glidall for
the same, as I am informed, but what is don therin I know not ;
of this matter, Settill, your servant, can informe you better then I.
Allso, ther is one Slepe dweling abowt St. Albones, who at your
last Court thear maid clame to a percill of grownd of your said
copehold in the tenner of Marston, of the which the same Mars-
ton hath a cope. Soever the le (nevertheless) , said Slepe aledgeth
that his brother, of whom the said Marston bought the same
ground, never maid surrender therof, according to the custome of
your maner ; albeit, it apereth plainely in a bill remaining with
the said Merston, that the brother of the said Slepe sold unto
Merston all his intreast in the said coppehold. The same Slepe
at your last court required your baly ther, with the asent if
the said Merston, to make search in your court rowls if
any such surrender wer maid, acording as it is mentioned in
the said copie remaining with the said Marston, [ which cope, as
I remember, was maide in the fowerth or fifth yeare of the reign
of our Soveraigne Lord the king that now is,] where the said
rowle could not be found; howbeit, theare was all the rowles of
this King reigne but onely that of that yeare. Sir, as me thinks,
your rowls thear be not kept as they ought to be ; the cofer
wherin your said court rowles lieth is nought and the lock therof
not worth a pene, and it standeth in the church at Sacomp, wheare
every man may come at his pleasure. Wherfore, in my simple
mind it should be nesary for you to provide sum other meane for
the safe custody of your said rowles. Also, Sir, sith the time I
have bene your farmer ther, I have paid, and must pay within tow
yeares next to come, vi fiftens for hte farme of your maner of
Sacomp, the first paymet xxiiijs, the second xxxs viiid, and either
of the other fower yeares xxiiijs, which amounteth in the hole
viili xs viiid. I marvill greatly that your said manor should be so
highley charged, considering the hole fiftene of your towne of
Sacomp is but lixs. I could never se no writing of the sesment
therof, but only by the report maid of your tennants ther by word
of mouth. Sir, I wright this unto you, because in case you have
any sertinty therof in wryting, I might know it. I wold be sory
to charge your said maner with any more then ought of right ot
be ; and yet I have paid the same, bycause I am loth to stand
in contentions with my neighbors . . . . the truth therin be
known. Further, I have received the letter sent to you by Sir
Philip Butler, knight,b wherin he wrighteth that you have bene
insensed against him by the report of lewd and evill disposed
persons ; by whome he meaneth the same, I may not judge :
howbeit, I think rather by me then any other. His sones ar dis-
contented with me, because I kepe grey hounds and hownds at your
said maner, saieng that it becometh not me to kepe grey hownds
and hownds so near theyr fathers nose, with many other things
which I remite for lake of time. And whear your pleasure is
in your said letter, that I should shew Mr. Butler that in case
he would give you such fine for your milne of Sacomp as your
baly did demaund for the same, you wear contented that
he shold be amited tennant therof ; Sir, sith the receit of
your said letter I have not spoken with the said Mr. Butler,
because I have bene and yet am at London, as this bearrer can
informe you. Albeit, at this Hillarii tearme I spoke with one
Mr. Hide, who maried the said Mr. Butlers daughterc, and lieth
and continueth within the said Mr. Butlers, and is the greatest
doer about him ; to whome I shewed your pleasure therin,
requiring him to informe Mr. Butler therof, and of your said
pleasure. Wherupon the said Mr. Hide said, that you demaunded
an unreasonable fine for the same, and that his father did ofer
you double the fine that ever was paid by any man for the
same. And further he said, that in case ye wold not take
such find, as shold stand with reason and good conscience, he
trusted that my lord Chauncler of England, upon the matter
hard before him, wold ses such fine for the same as shold stand
with right and good consience. And whear, also, the said Mr.
Butler, amongst other things, wryteth in his said letters that
your tennants thear be daly in his danger, and that he might
put them daly to trobles, if he wold ; Sir, I trust ye have no
tennant thear, but that is the Kings trewe subject, and obedient
to Gods law and his graces. And as long as the be so, I dought
not but that we, having so noble and gratious a King as we have,
power men shal live in rest, doing their deuty to his grace, as
they and all other ar most bownd to do. Sir, Mr. Butler of himself
is a good and gentle knight, in case he wear not otherwise
counciled, as knoweth Jesu, who ever preserve you and all
yours in good and prosperus health with long continuance of the
same to his pleasure. From London the xxii day of Febuary.Your fermar and servant,
JOHN DODINGTON.da Thomas Compton was perhaps of the family of that name at Willingham, com.
Lincoln, and nephew in half-blood to the wife of William Plumpton. (See note to Let-
ter CLXXX.)b Sir Philip Boteler, of Woodhall, in the parish of Watton-at-Stone, com. Herts. kt.
c Anne, daughter of Sir Philip Butler, kt. married Leonard Hide, esq. Pedigree in
Clutterbuck's Herts.d In Sacombe Church, on the floor in the chancel, was a stone with this inscription,
"Here lieth buried the bodie of John Dodington, of Sacombe, gentleman, who de-
ceased a faithfull Christian the viith daie of Januarie, in the yeare of our Lord God
1544, and was husband to Eleanor Dodington, whose grave is joyned here to his on the
right side ; after whom he survived seven yeares and seaven weeks and left alive at his
departure by her his only wife three sons and six daughters.Cygnea qui terris modulati carmina mortis,
Dulce polo vit? nunc melos usque canunt."